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Farewell Winamp 3.

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June 29, 2003 6:15:33 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
Winamp 3 is no more. AOL's Nullsoft division has decided to discontinue Winamp 3 and return to enhancing Winamp 2 for the time being. A future "Winamp 5" will eventually become the next generation Winamp.

Winamp 3 was a very ambitious upgrade of Winamp. Rewritten almost entirely from scratch, it contained a new object oritend development language/environment known as Wasabi that would allow developers to create all kinds of things.

Unfortunately, such power requires memory and other resources which didn't appeal to Winamp's core user base which used Winamp because it was fast and light.

Winamp 3's cool skinning engine, however, is being brought to Winamp 2.
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Frogboy
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Reply #1 June 29, 2003 6:29:48 PM
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that sucks, I liked winamp 3
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Reply #2 June 29, 2003 7:10:05 PM
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Awesome. I thought I was the only one who couldn't stand that crap.
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Reply #3 June 29, 2003 7:27:13 PM
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The skinning was the ONLY trhing 3 had over 2. COmbine that with 2's speed and you've lost nothing.
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Frogboy
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Reply #4 June 29, 2003 7:27:21 PM
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I agree with Uchiha
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Reply #5 June 29, 2003 9:06:24 PM
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I hated WinAmp 3. Now if I could just learn to skin it before the WinAmp 2's engine is scrapped.
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Reply #6 June 29, 2003 9:23:01 PM
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I liked winamp 3. I guess the core user base is mostly win98 users and 2000 cuase you really don't notice a proformance hit...

it crashed sometimes with some skins though...

I would like to see what they will do with winAMP2 to make it so skinnable that you can have the shapes and colors and all the other features like windows and stuff. WinAMP3 had allot of features.
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Reply #7 June 29, 2003 9:39:27 PM
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I love and still use Winamp3. I like it's features better, and till 2 gets better or 5 comes out, I will still use 3. True it is bloated and uses a buttload of resources, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
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Reply #8 June 29, 2003 10:12:46 PM
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Winamp 3 was/is beautiful. It was a luxury sedan with all the accessories. But it stunk for performance. I love the skins, and I love some of the interfaces. But since I generally run Winamp in the backround while I'm working, I rarely saw it. That's why I won't miss it. When all I really want it to do is quickly load up and play songs, Winamp2 does the job better than Winamp3 - and there are some decent skins for it too.

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Reply #9 June 29, 2003 10:32:05 PM
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i liked winamp3, but i mean i never actually saw a difference in performance, and have enough memory to go around, so i mean it was cool to me. i basically found the skins and libary nice, but then winamp2 got a lil closer with 2.91 and the library. well one more thing and 2 will be as good as 3, but i will still use 3
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Reply #10 June 29, 2003 10:57:29 PM
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3 dosnt just use memory....
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Reply #11 June 29, 2003 11:12:05 PM
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Finally

WA3 was slow and crashy, WA2 is and has always been light, fast, and wonderful

I'd be happy if they only added the WA3 skinning abilities to WA2 and junked the rest of WA3.
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Reply #12 June 29, 2003 11:55:45 PM
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I just realized something... WinAMP5??

Never understood the numbering system.

So 4 must have been pretty great. I didn't even see it.
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Reply #13 June 30, 2003 12:11:43 AM
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Joe: 3+2=5 Why they chose to number this way? Well, you must remember that this is the compaby that chose to make the first sound file loaded into the player after instalation the famous "Llama whippin' intro", and so my only explanation would be:
Because they felt like it.
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Reply #14 June 30, 2003 1:12:12 AM
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lol...very nice explanation
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Reply #15 June 30, 2003 1:12:54 AM
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does anyone know if develpment for WA5 is even goin on, or when its startin. also is there a rough time as to when the WA3 skinning will go to WA2
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Reply #16 June 30, 2003 1:40:50 AM
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Ditching Winamp 3 and returning to Winamp 2 was the first time in the history of my personal computer history that I have ever gladly downgraded software. Winamp 3 had some cool features, but the startup time upon a file double-click was almost 5x, and it was buggy as hell.
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Reply #17 June 30, 2003 3:17:19 AM
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It ran smooth on my machine though. Yet I switched to Foobar2000, since that has a nifty highly configurable playlist. Anyhow, rumour has it this news is months old.
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Reply #18 June 30, 2003 7:40:39 AM
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The only reason i kept 3 around was because the cross-fading worked with CD songs as well as disk files. If they can bring that back down to 2+ thatd be great.
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Reply #19 June 30, 2003 9:16:07 AM
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OldBorg:

Have you tried checking for a plugin ?

Anyhow I love 2.93

Winamp is dead. Long live Winamp
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Reply #20 June 30, 2003 9:35:58 AM
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Odd Borg - Have you tried the DirectSound Output plugin? It's included by default and has settings for cross fading. Also, search the WinAmp forums like this one http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=1965f92d6113fc068a802443b60a9d26&threadid=129706&highlight=cross+fade
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Reply #21 June 30, 2003 11:35:47 AM
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Wezley: I read in one of the articles on-line somewhere that WinAmp5 is due out in late 2003.
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Reply #22 June 30, 2003 9:01:58 PM
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DavidMandle, do you have a link? What does winAMP5 do? For that matter what will winAMP2.9 do?
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Reply #23 June 30, 2003 10:27:49 PM
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and more. Running Win 2K with lotsa ram and processor- three was a tripod who's legs were bloatware, buggy and glacial. Liked the elements-couldn't take the buggy implementation. Pretty radical withdrawal of the software. Renews my faith in mankind, if not software ...
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Reply #24 July 1, 2003 7:43:37 AM
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object "oritend" development language??? Maybe oriented you mean? Or is this Wasabi *that* revolutionary that it gets a new word?
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Reply #25 July 1, 2003 11:04:28 AM
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Long leave to 2x!GO! GO!

I was never able to run winamp3, it allways crashed my system.

I just finished a winamp2.91 skin and updated 2 other ones
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