When I use the Settings dialog, I turn on the taskbar... and the systray shuts off.  Vice Versa is also occuring...  Is there a setting that I am missing, perhaps?

Ahh I see. I suspect he wants to do it on a single dock not tabbed. From what I can see, I cant add a systray either if a start menu is on a non tabbed dock. Actually Im not seeing anyway anymore to add a systray. I know it did cause it was the first thing I tried. A systray and a start menu. Both worked before, but now i just have no option for a systray that i can see.

That, of course is what I was talking about...  I do not want to use a tabbed dock as a Taskbar alternative but rather have the icons all available at one time -- which brings me to a second point; the systray does not naturally update when a new item is loaded to the tray.  If I start a tool that minimizes to the tray I am forced to manually configure the dock to show it.  This is not a preferable method.

Perhaps the 'TYPE' of ObjectDock needs to be considered... How about offering a taskbar dock that includes, with options to exclude, the Start, open window region and the systray with a digital clock (of course).  Then permit us to add docklets or shortcut areas (with all the trimmings like menu and fly-outs?

This is, I think, not so large a task since Stardock has already implemented all the functions already.  The whole point here is to have end user options rather than predefined methods of use according to limiting notion of developer expectation of usability.

easily done by having 2 zoomer docks side by side....one with the taskbar and the other with the systray....which is how I do it so I can set the systray icons to 20 with no effects and leave the taskbar icons at 64 with effects