Just read an article on Microsoft ramping up the pressure on people who have 'borrowed' copies of XP Corporate... Sounds menacing...

There might be a lot of k1dd13s switching back to 98se abruptly when SP1 comes out...

Mmm... craeonics goes prepare for the siege

I currently run 98 second edition-and todayy my computer RAM got upgraded to 128 MB(that's what MS wants in the XP system requirements, and now Picture it! 7 wants), had 64 mb before-now it faster (and more stable). Plus, I won't be uprading any MS consumer software-as v 7 of Works is not rich in new features and I prefer v 6.0 instead. And on XP related, I'm sticking with 98 until we can upgrade to it next year(yes my father's computer has the same amount of RAM). Why? I wouldn't upgrade to until MS declares 98 unsupported(at least then XP would be more matured). It's like if BMW decides to not support the 525i/535 cars and focus on the 3/7 series. Also Windows 98 was cheaper to purchase $ 189 AUD to upgrade, XP is more expensive. I won't recommened some Stardock apps to 9.x users. My programs aklso will be XP only (that's any done in VB 6).

That is my say,

Cheers,
Anthony Mark Sulivan

Im running a comp that most of you have probably forgotton about, a P1 running win. 95, and I have few problems with winblinds, just because I have to close a few programs that I dont use anyway. I dont care if you want to update everything to 2k/xp, because Ive already been outlawed as far as I know, but I like the few skins that I have (xp blue) so Ill just keep using that whenever I get bored of this ugly grey bar at the bottom of my screen. thx stardock for making one of the few programs that doesnt give me 15 errors that say I need win.98 or higher. and you can update as soon as you want (hopefully I will too, this system is holding me back)
one very satisfied user.

I apologise.
Evidentily I misunderstood the thread way back when.
I am not worried that I won't be able to upgrade my stardock products beyond a certain point. I am more concerned with the lack of available skins that I will be able to use.

In icon packager, there have been so few new packages available, and now the latest exclude my OS. So far all windowblinds skins will go both ways. Object Bar has had a dearth of new offerings *note ob is the one link we non-xp users have with the xp world. it allows us to see our desktop in a similar way to your desktop that's why we like it so much.* and ObjectX ,while confusing to those of us not familiar with using object technology, still manages to give us some skins to work with.
I just worried that there would be no more wb skins available that would work with both os's. I see it happening already elsewhere in wincustomize. That was why I was so upset.
I guess I'll go find the old blankie and skulk to my doghouse and hide under it.
Mea Culpa for dragging the dead horse thru the mud.
Wulfie

Just a rejoinder to pdoland,
in your comment you asked "But I've got a question - are you expecting MS to release a never version of Plus! 98? Fat chance. But you expect Stardock to release new versions of OD for 98?"

well, my answer to that is, as follows:

I can daily download new plus!themes. There are countless themers out there supplying me and will continue to if I choose to utilise that program. Those themers will continue to produce beautiful little packages that add a touch of difference to the boring sameness of windows products. (I heard xp only has three real xpthemes available... hmmmm no wonder they are purchasing stardock products.) I never expected stardock to produce newer better products for the same old OS. I did however expect to see new and exciting skins available at different sites around the net.

Until recently I was seeing that. Within the last two months though, I have seen countless crashes of servers, lockouts of sites due to hardware and software failure (I wonder do those servers and webhosts use XP exclusively?) , and what seems to be a subtle campaign to create pay only sites for downloading skins.(the free sites are having quite a few problems lately..odd that..)

My husband paid for the product I use. I looked forward to having a full year of new redecorating ideas for my pc. Now I am coming to the conclusion if I want to continue to benefit from the product purchased, I must soon pay for a seperate "subscription" in order to enjoy the same benefits.
Then I read a comment on the homepage of this site suggesting there will be no support of the OS I use in the near future(that was the impression I got from these comments)

Now, lets say you purchased,......... hmm,.... a cell phone.
you signed a year long contract, and were told the phone would work in your calling area perfectly. you get home and play with the phone only to find out , yeah it works perfectly, but you must stand with your head tilted to the north and your left foot facing west to get that quality of reception promised. This is not a problem for you though ,because you are familiar with the points on the compass, and it is not a bother to tilt your head when speaking.
Now, three months into your contract, you recieve news that there is a new technology available for your cell phone that will make it so you only have to tilt your head on tuesdays, but it will cost XX amount of dollars to get the upgrade. unfortunately, current users of the original phone won't be getting the coverage they once were, but will now be limited to a fifty mile radius. the new improved phone system users will have unlimited coverage and a shiny new package and only have to tilt their heads slightly and only on tuesdays.

How would you feel if you were that customer ? I can tell you. I feel like I should have asked for a new vacuum instead of telling my husband surprise me.I feel like maybe he wasted money on a product I might not be able to get the full advantage of due to the equipment I have. I understand I can still use my object desktop software. I just won't be able to use any of the newest skins available because wincustomize and stardock have decided we are passe, and outmoded and shouldn't be online if we don't have a six digit income.
That's how I am feeling after the events of the past weeks in the windows skinning world.
Wulf
(there goes that damned dead horse again. )

I don't use WB on 98SE, but mainly because my machine is quite low-spec (K62 550MHz) - WB 3.4 is the best yet, and I have had no problems with it at all...but given the choice between running Desktop X OR WB, it was no choice at all - DX won hands down!!! I'll run WB when I upgrade to XP (next year, hopefully!)

I run WB on ME and have no problems at all. The reason why I don't have XP is because it just came out last year. I don't want to upgrade and then discover that XP is not compatible with my printer, scanner, web camera, game controllers etc, not to mention the tons of games I have. I'm a college student and I bought those with my own money so I want them to last a long time! I'll wait until XP gets a little bit better with compatibility. Until then I'll use my ME thankyouverymuch.
As far as when it should be phased, I think Stardock should give it another 2 years. I'm sure Microsoft will have made XP a bit more compatible with other peripherals and peripherals will more likely to be compatible with XP by then and more people will be less concerned with compatibility

I agree with Ken Chapin! I use a P 152 Mhz, 16 Mb Ram, first edition 98, an WB 3,4 runs excellent! Outstanding!!

1. because of money I won't upgrade so fast. First get a better computer.
2. why upgrade, still the XP has many a problem that i do not want, as I saw at my friends.
3. i use all possible icons from mac and from XP with no problem. It takes a little effort and knowledge how to make them work in a 24bit video environement. (but it's little. evidence can be submitted to applyers...)

4. and the least, making the 98 appear and customize close to the XP was the most impressive thing about WB. at least with me. it seemed impossible, but they did it!!! Excellency as such is not to be laid of!!

i use 98 but it has been heavily tweaked to the point that it will do what ever i want and for xp *quivers in fear* it's home edition is so limited and locked out that it's utterly useless to the advanced user if i get xp i would only use pro and not home