Try this for the expander and arrow: do the tray with the cut out section in it. Then make the arrow image itself blank.

Let me think about your other issue

It's my fault if this is gonna be a pain in the ass, so I apologize now.

I'm not sure what you mean.

If you need images to show me, email me.

All my spare time is going into this and I have to get it done. I'll share credit with everyone who helps.

Also on Messenger- PoSmedley

Glad I could help. Don't hesitate to IM me at any time if you hit any more snags

Tim- I think I worked out the issue with the quick launch!

Now I have to make the start button work to make it effective.

Emailing you.

Recieved the skin today, Po.

I have got your startbutton working like (I think) you want it, but I hope you are available to IM sometime today. I did some carefull tweaking of your startpanel (IE fixed a couple of margins and such)

Looks good, Po!  What about the Curried Cabbage skin, run out of gas? 

You guys are the greatest.

this is how it looks

If you want the the first quicklaunch item to be inside the "tab" then you could:

1. lengthen the black area or

2. shorten the startbutton image (less blank canvas to the right of the button) thus pulling the quicklaunch section to the left

If you get on MSN tonight, I can send it to you and go over it with you. Or should I just mail it to you to study on your own?

QUESTION: Do I or should I (probably a mtter of personal preference) add shadows to the frames, etc?  I don't know that I want to and I thought there was a setting in Windowblinds to add shadows.

I think it looks good like this... Mighty fine work..

I have had some huge help from Tim putting it together. I really can't take credit. Hopefully he's getting some sleep now.

Beautiful work...Po'/Tim...I'm eternally grateful.