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WMV TO MPEG2 Converter

help with quality for DREAMS

November 16, 2009 1:58:30 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums

Using either Vista or 7's version of movie maker I have been able to

loop Dreams OK , but then the file is saved as a wmv file causing higher

cpu usage when used as a Dream ....

1st attemps using a couple free programs I have to convert wmv to mpeg2

at either 720p or 1080p have not been good - the quality and smoothness

takes a hit ....

I don't have ( After Effects ) ... do you know of a good converter that will

FIX this problem ( Free or Not ) ... and maintain the quality  ...

Any ideas to help with this problem ... i'm all ears   .... thanks Az ...

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Reply #1 November 16, 2009 3:38:15 PM
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Looks like AVS ..program is the possible way to go ...

any thoughts about AVS - anyone used the video editor

or flash or converter from this program - trying it now _ trail ver.

stay tuned ..... Az

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Reply #2 November 16, 2009 4:59:38 PM
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oppppsss  - stll looking for the right program

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Reply #3 November 16, 2009 5:01:08 PM
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AVS not looking like the way to go - bummer - ummmmm

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Reply #4 November 16, 2009 5:05:33 PM
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Hey AZ, can't help but did not want to leave you here talking to yourself

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Reply #5 November 16, 2009 5:31:41 PM
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TMPGEnc is the best have all editing done colours/ fps/ size etc before using it though or you get stutter of the loop.

Xilisoft Video Converter Ultimate is also good.  wmv <-> mpg is one thing AE does not do.

Down the line watch that no other programme takes over your mpg codecs, ffdshow or AVS will ruin your looping ability. Can you roll back before AVS ? - AVS does lots but badly and takes over the MS mpg codecs. To test if it has happened make the same dream using a wmv and a mpg file - both should loop perfect if the mpg stutters at the loop only a re-install of the OS works for me - have a HD image made before trying video programmes.

If movie is 1280x720 it is best to leave at that and let owner's computer upscale the video, if your movie is already better than that leave at 1920x1080 or whatever it is unless changing in AE by overflowing the work stage.

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Reply #6 November 16, 2009 6:04:24 PM
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TMPGEnc 4.0 Express is the way to go.

As Ausvet said, make sure you do all of your work prior to using it and only use it to convert to MPG.

If you or anyone else wants the best settings to use, PM me and I'll be happy to give them to you.

There's a trial for TMPGEnc 4.0 Express if you want to test it out. It leaves a watermark but for testing it doesn't really matter.

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Reply #7 November 16, 2009 7:57:24 PM
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Thanks guys , Jafo said to check with both of you for help if needed as you 2

got the Dream thing down pat ....

I will check out what you have said and post back here later ,

i'm sure i'm not done with questions yet ... thanks for responding to the post ..

I think because i deal more in scenery dreams with allot of movements

rather than design ones - it

make doing this tougher - i think ....  thanks again Az ......

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Reply #8 November 16, 2009 8:24:24 PM
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Down the line watch that no other programme takes over your mpg codecs, ffdshow or AVS will ruin your looping ability

what should it be ( i have ffdshow) i think from some program ( running windows 7 ) - what should have control over mpg codecs ?

thanks again ....

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Reply #9 November 16, 2009 9:07:36 PM
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I use 'ANy Video Converter'. IT's free and converts for mpegs, itunes, ipod, wmv, etc..and allows you to control the quality of output.

http://download.cnet.com/Any-Video-Converter/3000-2194_4-10661456.html

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Reply #10 November 16, 2009 9:31:26 PM
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Windows 7 would be enough the mpg codec is excellent, trust very few programmes to touch your codecs or near perfect loops are impossible. TMPGEnc, Xilisoft and PowerDirector are OK to trust, leave well alone  ffdshow and AVS destroy ability to make a good mpg loop. Multi codec packs are a disaster too. ffdshow got put on my laptop by a HTML Editor and it screwed all mpg loops and even SCRs asked did I want the video played by it too - a question asked before the SCR runs !! - fortunately I had an image backup prior to its install. AVS ruined the same way earlier this year and left me with just wmv loops - with mpg loops there is less ammo against you.

There is a codec analyzer online to see what codecs is what, by Nirsoft if I remember.

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Reply #11 November 16, 2009 9:55:38 PM
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Thanks again guys - i'm trying some of this and will get back here , later

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Reply #12 November 16, 2009 9:59:09 PM
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right now my loops are ok , it's wmv to mpeg2 is what i need to fix - either 720 or 10801p -

that's my main thing to fix right now - wmv- mpeg2 quality matching ..

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Reply #13 November 16, 2009 10:38:45 PM
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I think because i deal more in scenery dreams with allot of movements

rather than design ones - it

make doing this tougher - i think .... thanks again Az ......

I've done plenty of both.

Although I'm more into creating original stuff nowdays, I still like to do some fair use video now and then. I've got some really nice nature footage I may share with the community next week while I'm on vacation.

Feel free to ask if you want help or would like to pick my brain.

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Reply #14 November 16, 2009 11:14:06 PM
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I just got an e-mail from my friend who said he was sending me the full adobe creative suite and  TMPGEnc 4.0 Express

so we'll see if i get it or not ... then there will be a few more questions i'm sure ...

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Reply #15 November 16, 2009 11:16:03 PM
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i make up most of my video from stills and adding the animations and converting to avi ...

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Reply #16 November 17, 2009 6:49:58 AM
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i make up most of my video from stills and adding the animations and converting to avi ...
ArtStudio is good for that besides Nature Illusion - birds flying from one still on their site is incredible. Works fine on Win 7 64 bit too.

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Reply #17 November 17, 2009 7:25:58 AM
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ArtStudio is good for that besides Nature Illusion

 

art studio ?  is that a program - got a link ?  i can check out .....

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Reply #18 November 17, 2009 7:40:20 AM
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OK i googled it ( ArtStudio) and downloaded trials will ck it out when i have some time , thanks

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Reply #19 November 17, 2009 8:05:44 AM
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What program are you currently using to create your dreams Az??

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Reply #20 November 17, 2009 8:46:08 AM
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different ones - movie maker - sony vegas movie studio - sc saver program - those are the

ones installed since i loaded up 7 ...

 

what programs do you use ?

 

I'm supose to get After Effects soon - if my friend comes through for me

but have never used that program before ... will have questions probably

when time ....

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Reply #21 November 18, 2009 7:16:54 AM
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have  you tried http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html

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Reply #22 November 18, 2009 11:06:58 PM
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have you tried http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html

 

Thanks muckyman I'll check it out ..

 

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Reply #23 November 27, 2009 12:06:15 AM
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I use Bryce, Art Studio, Cyberlink Power Director8 and finally TMPGEncXpress4 to encode my dreams to mpg.
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