excellent post. +1 for you. 

this really captures the most important element of Map Strategy in Demigod. each map is a bit different but the objectives are known from the beginning. a team can win easily, even if their opponents beat them in individual conflicts and are higher level, if the team is co-ordinated and focused on winning the map. citadel upgrades and flag locks are the most important elements of this. 

thanks for the guide Strangler, more people should read this. 

Added Milskidasith's orders.

This is a great guide for new folks coming in.  Espeically folks like myself who are completely new to the whole multiplayer thing.  The coupld of times I've played online I've had some good team-mates that have helped me figure out what I was doing...though I ended up doing that pretty badly.  I'll learn eventually.

Thanks for this!

I enjoyed that bit... + 1 for the guide, a fun read.

edit : can't tell you how many times I don't get responses when calling pug teamates by their demigods name.. or "TB" ?

Best way to win a game with a newer player is to take charge, and put them in an environment where they don't feel horrible if they die. Continual positive reinforcement, and constructive criticism on how they can improve and help the team, as opposed to how badly they're playing, can go a long way toward getting a good foothold to victory. Support characters especially can turn into incredible sidekicks that can make your life easier, if not extend it with stuns, heals, towers, shields, and snipes. Not to mention this gives them a more positive impression of demigod, which is definitely needed with the lingering connection issues that are still being ironed out.

Good post all around, although I don't think you NEED a coordinator.  In fact, I think a better group doesn't have to rely on a single person for all of their strategy.  I much prefer a group that ALL stay in communication, can give an order and take one, and where each DG has the intelligence to carry out their own plans.  Granted, that doesn't always happen, and if you're a much better player than your teammates, by all means, order away.  But that's not the ONLY way to do it.

Calling for heals.  Listen, I'm not saying don't do it... but... don't do it.  Sedna's not a healer.  Sedna has one healing spell.  If your Sedna is filling a pure healing role, you're not doing it right.  She can heal 214 damage per second, at level 10.  That's just not enough, no matter how you slice it.  Don't get me wrong, I play Sedna, I've played MMOs in the past in which I've been exclusively a healer, and I don't mind filling that role.  But it just doesn't add up here.  If you're in a lane with a teammate, and you're not taking damage, and they are, heal them.  But on the flip side, don't expect me to be able to heal you at all times.  It just won't happen.  I'm tired of people running suicide missions and expecting me to heal them, even while I'm in the middle of a fight with another DG.  It's something I get angry about in MMOs too, because 9 times out of 10, if you need a heal, and I'm not healing you, there's a reason for it.  I see you're low on health.  I do.  I'm not just deciding not to heal you to be mean.  I'm out of mana, or on cooldown, or some such problem.  Sorry, I'm done ranting now, but it's a big pet peeve of mine, and unless you've been there, you really don't understand how infuriating it can be.

He's not on some trip, he's absolutely right. Sedna is a healer, of course, but Sedna is not designed to primarily heal the rest of the team. And he never suggested he doesn't take Heal, he clearly stated that when he can heal another he does, and I do, too. I always keep an eye out for my teammates when they're involved in a fight nearby, especially if we have an opportunity to 2x1 someone and I just love waiting for that Pounce opportunity to finish them off or prevent them from getting off their key ability. And if I see a teammmate passing me by on their way back to the base and I've got mana I will always top them off so that they can more quickly rejoin the fight. It just makes sense to advance your team's interests. 

But what he's talking about is something I can empathize with 100%, and that's the morons who feel that Sedna is there exclusively to heal them as they fight. You may have been lucky enough to have avoided them in your games, but I've played games with retards who expect me to follow them around while they fight and then whine about the "lack of heals" and rage quit because "Sedna isn't healing". That's what he's talking about and he gets a +1 Karma for raising a point that needs raising.

Sedna IS a healer, but she's also a Pouncer, she needs to Creep, she needs to protect her own ass, and she needs to opportunistically roam the battlefield for the betterment of her team. She isn't anyone's personal pocket heal monkey.

Err, generally, lose.

I don't think Sedna is specifically a healer, and never said so. I'm just saying, if somebody says heal and you can heal, you should probably heal them unless you are in way worse shape. (Honestly, I'm getting fed up at the number of Sednas who sit back and ONLY use heal; when I go into a 2 on 2 fight, I expect my second ally to do damage and heal, not just stand back. )

Hey Strangler dood!

Thanks. This is something we all need to learn to do: work together. Personally, I find that when you make friends that cooperation comes naturally. You actually give a damn about others when you care about them! But ALSO being firm and giving directions when you know WHAT needs to done is definitely match defining. Teach other players to be a man!!

Hope to play a match with you sometime,

Boxleitner

Aaaaaaaaand why? Her only other skills are Summon Yeti (and yetis are horrible) and counter-healing, which is a useful denying tactic but not particularly great (and I'm not sure if it even works on potions and/or sigils of vitality). A build without healing is going to have a ton less survivability; in a fight between Sednas, if you don't have heal, you aren't even going to scratch your opponent. There is pounce, but a lot of builds have a good mix of pounce and heal.

If you are trying to do a minion build with her yetis.... practically all of the generals are better at minion builds.

Dude, that's 1.3k health (I think) every seven seconds less (or even more with a cooldown flag or two), plus eliminating debuffs. If that isn't a ton of survivability, I don't know what is.

Except for an HP stacked character with heal... HP stacking uses cash, heal uses skill points. It's not hard to combine the two, AND you can still pounce freely (I go pounce and heal).

Plus, without heal, Sedna's poor DPS makes her killable by... anybody. Pounce is a good interrupt, but doesn't give damage in the leagues of fireball, Spit, Ooze, Mines, Hammer Slam, or any other primary damage skill.

Basically, without heal, an HP stacked Sedna is a weak character fighting with weak moves; anybody else does HP stacking better.

1. That's a problem with your build, then. I've been able to stack 5k HP with heal and pounce.

2. True, but priests heal sporadically and heal less than heal does, and they cost money that could be used for items (they are very cost efficient, though).

3. How do you figure? Unless you assume you have a lot more disposable cash than the enemy, you aren't going to have higher speed and more combat capability. And being pushed out of the lane, IE "disengaging" means you just lost gold and EXP.

4. True, you have silence. But that doesn't last very long (at low levels, where you claim it is most efficient). Also, how do you have mana for constant silences and pounces, but not constant heals and pounces? You are making two points that contradict each other. Also, baiting pounces like that is easy; activate heal, deactivate by attacking, voila, wasted pounce, then heal+pounce. While it won't work on everybody, it becomes a mindgame about whether you should pounce or not, and a mindgame where you get off heal even half the time still makes pounce + heal more efficient than just pounce.

5. True, a mass silence is a good damage reducer, but saying "at low levels" is wrong. At high levels it is more efficient. At low levels, it's... what, 3 seconds? Most people are probably going to be on cooldown most of those three seconds. Plus, skills don't do much damage at low levels.