Excellent post NT and I am sad to say, so very true.

"For those who truly love America, it's time to remember that power does not belong to Congress or the White House or even the Supreme Court. It belongs to each one of us.

We make the future."

Right.........so, who elected and supported the current government?

Sorry but I did not vote for the last and current administration and in the long run it really doesn't matter who is elected next it's going to take some time to fix our "state of the union". For those of you that did vote for the current administration you desire all of this. Until the entire government is cleaned out and new blood is put in nothing will change much. Look at the candidates this year and for the last few presidental elections, none have been worth a danm.

NT you forgot to add how we americans allowed a presidental election to be rigged and did nothing about it. This was not the first rigged election but it was the most flagrent and obivious one in my time.

All we need is that next step. Monday night football to the death.

History will take the larger view and say that people, which at one time were able to care for themselves, became more and more dependent on government until they reached a point where they blamed all the ills of society on governments failure to provide everything for them.



Obviously this is a result of individual's choices. I don't think the numbers would be any different if there was no conflict in the middle east.

Very good points.

I grew up in the 60's. I went on marches against the war in Vietnam. My friends and I published an "underground" newspaper at our High School. We never got caught! It was all for nothing. Here we are in 2008 and it's worse than ever. Nothing will really change until the basic nature of man changes.

The elected officials are supposed to represent us but in reality they represent special interests.

The electorial college appoints the president so all this presidential crap going on now is meaningless. Bush stole 2 elections in a row and no body did anything about it!

ALL the people need to unify and demand change but that will never happen because the people are too easily fooled and bought off.

Abandon hope Ye who enter here.

Could we at least have a couple Roman Feasts and Orgies 1st?

Apparently you don't watch TV Bichur or you would see that we are way beyond all that.   

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.  It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury.

"From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.  These nations have progressed through this sequence:

"From bondage to spiritual faith;
 from spiritual faith to great courage;
 from courage to liberty;
 from liberty to abundance;
 from abundance to selfishness;
 from selfishness to apathy;
 from apathy to dependence;
 from dependency back again into bondage."

Dr. Alexander Tytler, a Scot professor, wrote a scholarly tome, from which this concept comes,  called "The Athenian Republic" which was published shortly before the thirteen American colonies gained independence from Britain.

Well said NT.

It's all show and no blow! Go to 95th and Stony Island in Chicago or the heart of Gary Indiana and then tell me that the Black man has it better than in the 60's. They, they being the powers that be, make it all look better but in reality it's just the same. Women still get the short end of the stick with wages. Hillary is a Clinton for God's sake! She got this far because of the Clinton power and money. What is reality? What things look like or what they are?



What you say is true but you can bet your ass that the special interests that are for oil and big business are far and away more powerful than the Sierra Club. Those big money power groups are the ones in control and unless that changes we are still at the mercy of those who are only interested in gaining more wealth and power. Like Michael Moore said - Their greed knows no limit.


I vote because it's my right to vote. I know deep down inside that it doesn't change a thing. Like Mongo said in Blazing Saddles - I'm only pawn in game of life.