Object Desktop 2008 Support Thread

Zargon

Join Date 12/2003

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Object Desktop 2008 Support Thread

Please post Object Desktop 2008 questions / issues here.

Object Desktop 2008 launches today, please use this thread to discuss any support questions or issues with Object Desktop 2008.

Release Notes

There are no known issues on x86 versions of Windows XP and Windows Vista.

There are some known issues with x64 installations of WindowBlinds and IconPackager, again 32-bit customers are not effected.

Users of x64 versions of Windows XP and Windows Vista may experience issues with WindowBlinds 6.03. Please upgrade to WindowBlinds 6.03b once the update is published later next week on Impulse before reporting any issues.

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Hi,

OS=XPSP2

Downloaded and Registered Object Desktop Ultimate (upgrade from Stand Alone WB6.? & SS6.0)

Forced to use Impulse to download (pretty buggy program, so far, IMO).

Downloaded all OD programs then updated all, I like SD Central a lot better.

Object Sweeper would not download - message says "not available"
Object Desktop Launchpad downloads fine but will not run. Windows Error Message pops up re: Send to Microsoft ... bla, bla.

Everything else seems to work but not these two above.
Any ideas?
I disabled my ZApro firewall to be sure but OD Launchpad still will not open.

I've got an email into support but I assume that's going to take a good while to get a response there. Sure could use some help on getting an otherwise nice program(s) working.

Thanks for any help you can provide!

UPDATE: Still same situation, tried using CCleaner, 'puter's running great, no other probs.
I used SmartException to try to find the problem as shown below.

Dave

[SmartException]
LastEx=ODNT_LAUNCHPAD.EXE
File=C:\Program Files\Stardock\SmartException\ODNT_LAUNCHPAD.EXE_1208478246.CRA
LastEx2=C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop\Launchpad\ODNT_Launchpad.exe
CrashAddr=1701387

Stardock SmartException Logging Information
https://www.stardock.com/products/smartexception
-----------------------------------------------

OS version : Windows XP Service Pack 2 - (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Video card : Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family
Sound card : Realtek HD Audio output
Date : 04/17/08
Application Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION
Crash Addr: 01701387 01:00020387 C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop\Launchpad\SDPlugins\DXAxHost.dll

Processor Registers (x86):
EAX:0012C120
EBX:015C2258
ECX:00000000
EDX:7FFB001C
ESI:015C4504
EDI:015C2494
CS:EIP:001B:01701387
SS:ESP:0023:0012C120 EBP:0012C148
DS:0023 ES:0023 FS:003B GS:0000
Flags:00010246

Current Application Call Stack:

Addr Frame Logical addr Module Name
---------------------------------------------
01701387 0012C148 0001:00020387 C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop\Launchpad\SDPlugins\DXAxHost.dll
01702011 0012C1A4 0001:00021011 C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop\Launchpad\SDPlugins\DXAxHost.dll
016F7D5B 0012C7E4 0001:00016D5B C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop\Launchpad\SDPlugins\DXAxHost.dll
016F7B54 0012C820 0001:00016B54 C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop\Launchpad\SDPlugins\DXAxHost.dll

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Good bug report. Now we wait.

In regards to Object sweeper . . It was good technology back in the day but if you are using ccleaner you are more than covered.

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Thanks Zubaz,

I just found that "SmartException" program and as you probably know it's a part of the OD Ultimate package ... and what a package it is!

Just for good measure I ran "SFC /scannow" to be sure of my system's integrety.
Everything checks out fine and all system files are intact and verified with i386 files.
This should make tracking down any problems a little easier, I hope.

I assume the Object Desktop Launcher is for any program files or groups of executables.

There's soooo much else in Obj Desktop that I probably won't miss it (OD Launcher) before support gets back to me.
If ya ask me, I think this team does an amazing job of working such a massive amount of data and programing and keeping it all up-to-date ... I'm overwhelmed just trying it out.

I appreciate your response, I'll be around with lots of questions when I figure out what to ask ...

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There's soooo much else in Obj Desktop that I probably won't miss it (OD Launcher) before support gets back to me.

If you are using impulse or SDC to launch your SD apps you aren't missing that much . .it really is just a simplified launcher (built with DesktopX I think).

There are meaty-er apps to sink your teeth into.

Cheers and welcome!

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If you are using impulse or SDC to launch your SD apps you aren't missing that much

Yes, I'm using SDC now and it works fine; as you mentioned previously I have CCleaner that will work fine for what Sweeper does so I'm set. Now all I need is a new hard drive for all the files that I've downloaded compliments of WinCustomize. It will be great when I get some time to work and learn these programs. I've always been one to tweak things so I think a whole new world has opened up to me here. Thanks again for the info. and the welcome Zubaz

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I thought they were supposed to be released sometime the following week? But Impulse hasn't released those updates....

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UPDATE: Still same situation, tried using CCleaner, 'puter's running great, no other probs.I used SmartException to try to find the problem as shown below.

CADesign,

Does ODNT Launchpad work for you now? Please install it through Impulse and let us know. If not, can you tell me what programs you have installed? We updated ODNT Launchpad for ODNT 2008, so it may be something we need to fix in the application itself, not Impulse.

Thanks.

Kirk

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I thought they were supposed to be released sometime the following week? But Impulse hasn't released those updates....

What updates are you referring to?

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The IP and WB ones they stated were coming for users with x64 versions XP and Vista....

Users of x64 versions of Windows XP and Windows Vista may experience issues with IconPackager 3.99. Please upgrade to IconPackager 4.00 once the update is published later next week on Impulse before reporting any issues.
Users of x64 versions of Windows XP and Windows Vista may experience issues with WindowBlinds 6.03. Please upgrade to WindowBlinds 6.03b once the update is published later next week on Impulse before reporting any issues.

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Hi Zargon0225,

I seem to be having a ton of trouble from DxaxHost.dll programs.
I still can't launch ODNT Launchpad ...
... my guess is that they are all related.
I am also can't launch Natural Desktop and am having some problems with DesktopX.

These all have DxaxHost.dll

DesktopX will only launch if I go to directly to the folder and lauch it by double clicking it from there. (Will not launch/ run from SDC or Impulse.

I just installed/ran UniBlue Registry Booster which did find some registry errors that CCleaner didn't find but it didn't seem to make any difference with the above programs.

If you can, perhaps you could look into DxaxHost.dll to see if there is a later version.
I have tried using DXAXHOST.dll version 3.5.0.0 with Natural Desktop and I got it to almost run one time ... but not quite. I also tried running my XP SP2 in Compatibility modes but that didn't seem to solve it either.

Thanks for the follow-up!
I suspect we'll get it figured out one of these days.
I really like Stardock's Support and Programs, I know they are worth the wait if there are any bugs to work out.

Thanks,

Dave
(aka CADesign)

[SmartException]
LastEx=ODNT_LAUNCHPAD.EXE
File=C:\Program Files\Stardock\SmartException\ODNT_LAUNCHPAD.EXE_1208927641.CRA
LastEx2=C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop\Launchpad\odnt_launchpad.exe
CrashAddr=1851387

Stardock SmartException Logging Information
https://www.stardock.com/products/smartexception
-----------------------------------------------

OS version : Windows XP Service Pack 2 - (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Video card : Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family
Sound card : Realtek HD Audio output
Date : 04/22/08
Application Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION
Crash Addr: 01851387 01:00020387 C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop\Launchpad\SDPlugins\DXAxHost.dll

Processor Registers (x86):
EAX:0012C120
EBX:013B2230
ECX:00000000
EDX:7FFB001C
ESI:013B4524
EDI:013B246C
CS:EIP:001B:01851387
SS:ESP:0023:0012C120 EBP:0012C148
DS:0023 ES:0023 FS:003B GS:0000
Flags:00010246

Current Application Call Stack:

Addr Frame Logical addr Module Name
---------------------------------------------
01851387 0012C148 0001:00020387 C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop\Launchpad\SDPlugins\DXAxHost.dll
01852011 0012C1A4 0001:00021011 C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop\Launchpad\SDPlugins\DXAxHost.dll
01847D5B 0012C7E4 0001:00016D5B C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop\Launchpad\SDPlugins\DXAxHost.dll
01847B54 0012C820 0001:00016B54 C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop\Launchpad\SDPlugins\DXAxHost.dll

Debug information for each stardock app follows ....

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It's confusing, at least!
Edit: I was doing it the wrong way, I think. I was trying to see something in SDC, but now I've installed Impulse and everything is clear now.

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I had to come here to get the Impulse...and I only found this by chance. well at least I have it now...maybe Stardock needs to post the link to the Impulse like Zubaz did, some place - so others, in case they have the same problem like I did...so they can find it to

Actually, you need only install the retail edition of Sins of a Solar Empire. It up and installs Impulse on you (like it or not).

Actually, I'm a bit concerned - if Impulse is beta, why is it installed as a pre-requisite of a retail product?

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DorkCoffeez

Join Date 03/2006

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There is no requirement to install Impulse. Impulse is now at production level but it still has many tools and updates being loaded into it. It works but is far from finished.

It still remains the best way to update and install the game for you. Also allowing you to archive the game onto a CD (containing the updates of course). Eventually to have multiplayer match making. With out ads, spyware, or costly background services we have made a sincere effort to make it a painless tool that you can enjoy using.

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Aaaand, I just noticed that the retail disc doesn't install Impulse - regardless of what the manual says. Heck, it doesn't even install (or try to install) SDC. Um, it doesn't even add shortcuts anywhere to the game. Meh, I guess I'll just install it manually. Maybe you guys should pass along to whoever makes the SoaSE disc that if the manual says it installs Impulse, it really should do so.

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"Impulse is still in a beta phase. The power users will find it and test it out. SDC is still the official digital distribution app. I think that once Impulse is vetted it will get more focus."

How can OD2008 be "released" if the core component is still in "Beta"?

This is really confusing: an e-mail arrives to say OD2008 is "released" and that everyone has a free upgrade, but nowhere on the website is there any mention of how to obtain it, except here. It's like it's been deliberately hidden from pre-existing customers, except for a potentially dodgy link to 'Impulse' posted by a customer, which may or may not be the current official version as far as everyone else reading this thread is concerned.

All that has happened, as far as existing installations of Stardock Central is concerned, is that it now produces an error message every time it is launched to say that the "Dreams" license cannot be validated. Everything else is the same and nothing new appears in the list of applications.

Another concern which is absent from the FAQ is the implication that users no longer have control over which applications are installed. According to the 'preview' article, applications I do not want are installed as a 'bundle', even though last time I checked not all of them were fully Windows compatible (cannot run under non-admin accounts) and the last time I tried them they were problematic (issues, unwanted clutter/complexity and system slowdown). In the end, I only want WindowsBlinds and SkinStudio to be installed, but the 'preview' article raises the question of whether this is still possible.

I think someone at Stardock should post a sticky thread about how to upgrade, and also clarify these issues.

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There is no "upgrade" per se. You don't get new apps if you were a ODNT subscriber. You don't get a new launcher.

Existing subscribers get what we had. SDC and Impulse have your new account settings and will deliver updates as always.

New subscribers have to choose what level ODNT they want.

I hope that helps clear it up.

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Island Dog

Join Date 06/2003

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In the end, I only want WindowsBlinds and SkinStudio to be installed, but the 'preview' article raises the question of whether this is still possible.

You can install whatever application you want. You don't have to install them all.

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Hello everyone first post time

First up using XP64 and have been enjoying Windowblinds and Iconpacker for a few years now. However after finding this page from a link in the Iconpackager forum regarding the new version 4 I have a couple of minorish complaints.

1, I installed Impluse to see what it was all about and it's all very shiny and new however trying to install any updates or new downloads gives me a popup telling me my OS is not supported. Fair do's I'm using 64bit so used to new things not running from day one.

2, Hop back over to Stardock Central and find that the updated versions of Sound Packager and Premium Desktop skins are not on there, if as the posts above say that Central is going to be the main app for downloading updates and software for a while then will these be making an apperance soon along with Icon Packager 4 on there or will Impulse be 64bit friendly in the very near future so I can download these updates and software?

Thanks in advance for any help on this one.

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Any word on when a compatible X64 version of IP will be out?? I unistalled 3.99 and my icons are still screwed up...

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PurrBall

Join Date 02/2003

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Thanks for the new WB beta, Firefox 3 now has beautiful menus

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Thanks for the new WB beta, Firefox 3 now has beautiful menus

Beta 5 always did.

Any word on when a compatible X64 version of IP will be out?? I unistalled 3.99 and my icons are still screwed up...

I would also like to know this... last I heard it was due out in a week.. several weeks ago. Hope the delay was nothing serious.

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Questions:

1. I haven't seen anywhere what it will cost to resubscribe to Object Desktop Ultimate.

2. When do we get our first free My Colors theme. I'm assuming that the two giveaways (Quest & Diamond) that come with My Colors aren't included in that category, as it would give the supposed benefits of a subscription to those who have not subscribed.

3. Now that Icon Packager 4 has been released, what are Stardock's plans for their next great 2008 release?

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Renewal remains the same (link)
You are correct.
Only Winky knows . . . and he's not talkin'

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Rambling little rant-
Is there ever going to be an option for those of us who want a different mix of applications?
The only application I use from ObjectDesktop is ObjectBar, don't want or need any of the others full-stop. I'd much rather bundle it with a copy of ObjectDock premium, but that's not an option- I'm stuck with paying for applications I niether need or want

Cheers

-Leezer-

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Is there ever going to be an option for those of us who want a different mix of applications?

Many of the apps are available as stand-alone apps. ObjectBar is one of them as is ObjedtDock.

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