afraid you are mistaken, am on vista 64 bit oem system builder home premium version. found out that by using the start menu the parts of object desktop that are there do work, i even get the windows fx up, and the desktopx never done that before, message use to come up not working closing programme, so thats a bonus, question is how do i get the different programmes onto the start menu, do not know how the ones that are on the start menu, got there, there are 4 of them at present, would like at least 4 more.
Ok, When you say "do not know how the ones that are on the start menu, got there, there are 4 of them at present, would like at least 4 more", that is windows just being windows. You can adjust how many total programs are on the left pane but, windows chooses which programs go there by frequency of your use.
I think you need some Vista computer classes.
This wasn't meant to be an insult. Your statements and questions indicate this. There are other ways to access your programs, including basics such as placing shorcuts on your desktop. I, however, do not intend to go into the details of how to go about this.
Explore your own computer and look for any tutorials or help files your computer maker supplied. Check out microsoft.com.
Fuzzy, I think, is trying to indicate many of your questions and statements are really outside the scope of these forums and just indicate you are very much a novice. It's no big deal. Go learn.