not on those occasions but it has previously on several occasions and did quit once this morning, just crashes explorer when I mouse over Object dock Zoom effect on Shareware version 1.90 Had to restart OD manaully I'll be on-line all day. if you need info let me know Thanks, Neil *checked recent log 3/1 8:28pm 3/3 11:35 am most recent OD shutdowns

I have it as a start-up program how do i manually close it?

O-K Neil I'll give this a try for a while. I'm completly friggin' lost without OD! I don't even keep a recycle bin on my desktop so I had to make a few shortcuts first but it won't let me make one for WB said wb.url has been changed or moved. Do I need to make a quicklaunch button for this before closing Object Dock? ALL my shortcuts were on it and I should try different skins.

Seppchen: What other applications are you running at the time and what version of WB (6, 6.02, or 6.1 beta)?

Also what are you doing in explorer at the time when it crashes?

An update: Shut down Object Dock at 5:20. At5;30 pm, local 'net went down for an hour. Didn't get to try much til 10;30pm At 11;57 Explorer quit under same conditions as before but with no object dock. Three minutes later, same thing, same way but I also had Java running.At 11;20 pm I turned the Sidebar OFF and no OD. It has three gadgets, the weather channel, a cpu/mem meter and a system info which I've had on it since day one. Tried till 2;am and it didn't quit once! I've been trying since 8:30 this morning and it STILL hasn't quit, even with my av scan and a huge download from hp going on. Bear in mind that I am deliberatly trying to induce a failure to find out what's pissing this thing off. If it turns out to be the sidebar (I'm hoping) I can live without it for awhile. Odd thing is, till WB updated this had only occured two or three times total. WB and Object Dock and occasionally SP is all I use. As for post#32 there is no way in Hell I could go back to NO Stardock/Wincustomize! I bought this thing for entertainment and education and I get both right here. (along with a good dose of humor) I'll just work around things for now, and try to be helpful if possible. 'Nuff said. Long Live Winky!

Look in the header of this thread for my WB version ! I am copying data from one explorer window to the other (copy and past). Some explorer windows are local other are on a Windows server.

Then the sidebar is always running on my second screen with Everest Ultimate Monitor and two weather channel gadgets.

It seems that WBLIND64.dll once in a while crashes at the same time when I am using Adobe Photoshop CS, Adobe Lightroom and Adobe Premiere. But not always, could be a coincidence because that is the software I use most of the time.

Seppchen: If you are having problems with the beta then you should switch back to the non beta.  Betas by their nature may have problems.

We should be putting up a new build today which has a few tweaks.  I would be interested in knowing if this helps with any issues.

sorry I couldn't reply sooner but yes so far without the side bar running I have had 0 explorer crashes and my 5 year old grandson and I have been on it all day. Spongebob! This is with no object dock, WC Select WB,exp. backgrounds on with 40% transparency. I'll use side bar tomorrow all day and compare notes. btw while my 'net was down I checked a couple things. Even with nothing running 0-5% cpu 40% mem I have 73 to 77 processes and 78 services running. Is this normal for HP/Vista? For instance why would lightscribe be a running service? Forgot to add that I never re-skin the sidebar, it's always on default OS

So far today windows explorer has quit at 10:00am while checking my 2 mailboxes,11:00-6:20pm played with grand son on a site that is all adobe powered (flash and shockwave) with no problems. came back to start menu at 6:21 ,expl.quit, changed WB's at 6:31 expl.quit,switched between windows at 6:34 expl.quit. Last three times yahoo messenger was only thing running besides WB and sidebar. Sorry I got off topic. I'll save that for another thread. Only common denominator is that the curser is in motion , it never quits a static screen.Any Ideas? Sidebar use does screw things up at least on my machine, yesterday I had 0 quit/restarts without it.

Haven't seen any new build so far.

After several days of testing I've decided to add windows sidebar to my "don't use" list,along with the WC Browser and TM. I can't take the chance of permanent damage.If I had the money or the time maybe I could do more with this cheap-assed computer,but caring for a family member 24/7 after his stroke leaves my wife and I with little of either.I was looking for answers and all I got were more questions.There's no help here. End Of Reports...I'll go away now.Good Luck,all.

Obviously, this thread died a death and that probaly means that we will have to live the the crashing WB on Windows Vista and that we will have to live with the stopping and and restarting Windows Explorer.

@geminisama: Thanks for your note ! It is important that Stardock customers keep complaining about their malfunctioning products. I have the impression that it is Stardock corporate policy to stop responding as soon as users get tired complaining.

I tried every stable version of WB and I tried every beta version with the slight hope that some problems are cured. They are not ! And it is not only WB crashing on my Vista boxes, also the wrong skinning for system windows is not resolved yet.

Conclusion: WindowBlinds is not compatible with Windows Vista, and certainly not with Vista x64, it still is what it always was, a very nice piece of Windows XP software.