I don't mean to be a nag or anything, but as I said I would love to be able to do it myself I just can't I have tried and tried and it always look like crap
To answer you question I'm not sure about ramayudhistira but the program I am referring to is here
http://www.vistastartmenu.com and as you can see there are two versions, a limited freeware version and "feature enriched" pro version for $20.00. The thing is that all the features it offers are features DesktopX already has and since I have already purchased Object desktop it seems like I should be able to find this same functionality using Desktopx with a similar layout. But no matter what I do I can't make something that looks like that I really and I mean REALLY suck at graphics...lol.
Angel