alongview, There is a difference, You would have to hunt down an admin (and maybe in some cases hope you got the right one) and the PM boxes have a 'limit' to the # of messages they hold. PMing is also not the easiest thing here on WC and I'm sure not very easy for a newbie. Now a 'button' might be abused as I stated above, hell it probably would. This whole thing is just to discuss the possibilities of what could be done as a regular feature. Maybe such a button should only be visible to the skinners themselves who created the upload. I don't know to be honest. I was just thinking that a regular and easy way to do such a thing could be put into place.

Maybe I should also state that personally I have had to deal very little (if at all) with such comments. I have also had my fair share of negative comments about this skin or that (take a look at my Psycho skin, plenty of "the color stinks" comments) and those have never bothered me. They are fine and I don't discourage that nor would I ever. But, others have and it puts a bad taste in my mouth that skinners have had to put up with non-skin related comments. Granted they are not very common but they do exist.

SIR Bichur :

Trolling or Insightful that's the question




psst: mine is a troll's comment

I will say that in the past I have been very critical of Master Skinner's themes and have maybe even flamed them myself, however, they are the best of the best, and should be challenged the most when creating skins. When it comes to charging for themes as well, the bar should be even higher than the free themes, and so should the judging. When the first Vista-charge theme came out, I was very critical of it because in many ways it was incomplete, and they were charging people to have a "Vista-compatible" theme when in many ways it wasn't compatible.

I am a fan of vStyler's work and it shows throughout my posting here at wincustomize. I was strongly critical of other Masters' work, especially when vStyler wasn't a Master yet, and his themes were of a caliber higher than the other themers at the time (in my opinion). However, now that he is a Master, I am judging the Masters' work a little bit differently. We know the fiasco that is Vista themeing, and until WB6/SK6 is out, we will not have 100% feature complete Vista skins. With that said, I'll go back to the topic.

Everyone has opinions on what is bad and good about a theme, but nitpicking someones theme because it is 1MB bigger is ridiculous. How many Stardock users are even on 56k? How many of Stardock users have small hard drives? This is 2007, and I'm sorry, but if a megabyte is your only complaint, it shouldn't be a complaint. Whoever Nicholasworld/alongview is, he is someone who is jaded to vStyler, for whatever reason. His opinions are nothing more than tireless banter and he is usually the only person complaining.

A lot of the top Master Skinners haven't made themes in months, and yet vStyler is constantly banging them out. And then he gets flamed for it? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

I do think you, vStyler, should calm down a little though. If you directly attack someone, even if he is attacking you, it shows your character as well. Let him continue to look like a moron, and eventually the entire community will not even listen to his complaints. Many have already seen that he complains about every theme you create. Eventually, he will mess up and will be exposed.

On the internet, everyone is a critique, and people have to realize that. Whether or not their reasoning is good however, is left up to the users and the creators. Just remember though...just because you post on a profile that has no data, doesn't mean you don't know what you are talking about. *cough*hint hint*me*.

Yep,negative comments about the skin are fine...its every users right to critique.

But a campaign to slander a skinner is another thing entirely.While we are at it...whe can do without Pixel Punk using every mastertheme comment section as his personal anti-Stardock skin sales podium.He dosnt really comment on the skin except in some lame backhanded fashion to justify his 'why aint this free?'bitching.

If he wants to complain,thats fine...do it in the forums.  

Like Jafo said above, we do keep an eye out for problem users, and do intervene behind the scenes when things go over the line.  However, we almost always do this privately, and don't hash it out on the forums for everyone to see.  The result is that sometimes people can get the impression that we're not doing anything to respond.

Our preference is to deal with problems and problematic users one-on-one.  The results are pretty much universally better than going through the steps in front of everyone.  And if a user chooses to not heed warnings issued (and we give many warnings and opportunities), then they're pulled.

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Did someone say trolls?

Where are they?

I'm hungry.

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gotta new troll on my skin wednesdays nightmare......go there just for a laugh if you want, its that rediculous, the stupid gutterslag has a campaign about me copyrighting a 'cross with wings' of all stupid things to pick about...and its not even copyrighted, either way ive reported the matter to zoomba, and something will be done pronto im sure...

especially when people work so hard on their work and to have just stupid rubbish like that thrown at them, either way, im over it.....another nicolasworld to me, just a pain in the ass with nothin better to do with their time then try to piss off someone in the win community........