I also posted it at clwoods Gallery

So we should not try to stop them?

Quitter.

As soon as one stops defending their rights they lose them.  This is true in intellectual property, real property,  government, whatever.  You quit and they win.  Not me sister.  Thanks but no thanks.

The only power folks have over you .. is what you allow them to have....throw in the towel, and they have it all..


yes crime on the internet will be around as long as there are immoral folks out there on it .. but we must fight them when called to arms...


My stuff may not be the greatest stuff on the net .. but it's mine, when i allow someone to forceably take control over it.. I give up my right's...Ive had too many family members make the ultimate sacrifice for mine and others right's, to give them up so easily....

Knock, Knock, Knock!

Who’s there?

Elsius Saint

Enter Sir!

A member kept it short and sweet. I’ll keep it soft as a pillow.


This is not being addressed directly to that member.

Would not it be best to attach your information with your files in case they are being redistributed elsewhere by nonpartisans or unknown invidious? At least your credit would find its way back to you. In my book, only a handful should act on my advice because if your works aren’t that good, why bothered?

If you like my advice and plan to use it please be nice to make a donation of at least $50 in US currency through my PayPal Account within 24 hours right after or else.

Warning: copying my comment above to other sites without my written consent is strictly prohibited and will be punished beyond human can possibly endure.

Elsius Saint

Signing out

ugly skin's or not everybody had the right to be treated equally and defend their property...crap or not makes no difference.... to smugly tell folks their skins are crap and they should thank the rippers is about as repugnant of a statement as ive ever heard....

I have seen people get off charges for saying just that.

Funny personally directed at me, yet philly0381 was also saying the internet is full of people who are running amouck until they get their hand caught in the cookie jar. I gave an idea to Busch Gardens when I worked there, Rhino Rally was my idea, did I get paid? no! Does it make me mad yes, my family and friends knew about it. Did I file a lawsuit, no, I have no proof that the idea was mine even with pictures and all, they also changed a couple of things, so that would have been a lost cause because they changed a couple things, the court would have sided with big old Busch Gardens. Yet we talk about items that although took someone a long time to create or just a photo they doctored as being something of major value. O.K. It is to the person who created it. However, In a court of law, this is not something that the person could afford to fight, this also has international implications. I am not saying you don't have a right to ask someone to remove the stuff you created but guess what, according to a friend, who is a lawyer, you would be bankrupt if you tried to stop it. You may ask but if they choose to keep it, what can you do? I am just stating facts here. It's just like the Question recently where someone asked "what your computer setup looks like" people took pictures of massive computer systems and put that online, without thinking of who might look at that and find that person to break into their house and steal all their stuff. I think we forget who is out there and what kind of people use the internet and what for. Think about what you post, think about what you say, and how much info you give out. They are lurking and looking for ways to get what they want. I feel like I shouldn't use the forum anymore because no matter what I say I get slammed. No one sees it as information or opinion.

Please don't feel that way. You have as much right to your opinion as do I or anyone else here. And I think, at least most of the people here understand that this is your opinion. This is just a case where a majority of the opinions tend to lean towards intellectual property right. And it seems that most of the ones that have taken this stand are artists whom[?] are trying to protect their rights regarding their creations.

Now, I intend no offense when I say this, so don't take it that way, but you sound as if you have experienced a situation where you have had something taken from you (identity theft?) and are possibly a little paranoid or pessimistic about individuals that use the net. I can accept that. And I 'm not trying to change your thinking on this. Just trying to help you understand why it's important to us. Now, I have one mediocre BootSkin that I've done, but I don't want some clown downloading it and then using it to make a profit just because it's available for free.

Anyone who's lived in this world long enough knows--sometimes from bitter experience--that the world can be very ugly and corrupt at times. I know that I've experienced my share of injustices like many others, but don't you think that despite fact that the odds might be against a person, that it's worth the effort to at least try and fight? To protect what is yours?

If I were in a situation where my children were threatened, I would try something within reason to protect or save them even though the odds are against me. Now we're not talking about a life or death situation here, but I would at least give it a shot, based solely on the principal of: It's my picture, and I don't want it on their site without my permission. If they're making money and they offer me a small share in the profits, then I might reconsider, but the choice is still mine and they need to respect it.

Yes, you ARE entitled to your opinion, and don't let anyone dissuade you from it. And don't leave us, despite differing opinions, it's still a good place to be.

My results of searching in this site:

adni18 (74 wallpapers): WWW Link

Nikos Adamamas (54 wallpapers): WWW Link

Nikos Adamamas (2 bootskins):
http://www.topdownloads.net/services/search.php?section=bootscreens&keywords=Nikos%20Adamamas&mode=

10 have been deleted all ready, after my request, but still remaining 130 of my works there without my permission...

I hesitate adding another reply to this post, we have enough opinions that have been expressed for both sides.

(Mrs) mschleisner in her reply (#63) took a part of one sentence from my reply (#60) and essentially wanted to know why I wasn't being picked on like she was. I kind of feel she changed the meaning of what I was trying to pointing out.

Sure I could copy the text, but It's more fun to have you go back and read the reply again for yourself. Yea, I'm lazy.   

Reminds me of a quote from Firefly.....

"This is going to be interesting"

"Define interesting"

"Oh God, oh God, we're all going to die?"

All beginning has an ends


I just got to work and the first thing I did was logged on here. Mrs. mschleisner has gently thrown her soft silky white towel nice and sweet. I picked it up and smelled it with such indescribable way – Smelled so good… had to lick it.

I gently moonwalk my way back in heaven.

That’s how the story ends.

But I shall be back another time, another place in the castle.

Very nice I think it was the tingle at the thought of the knight on his horse, daydreaming fun. Thanks for the wonderful words so that I may daydream for a moment in time.