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Alan Hill
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Reply #151 October 5, 2007 11:36:05 AM
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Ivan: I've updated the current beta on Stardock Central. Does it help your issue of weather docklets timing out when you have a large number of them?

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Reply #152 October 5, 2007 11:53:34 AM
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Make sure you set SDC ot US 1 server.  It's not on US 2 yet.

Thanks Jeff!
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Reply #153 October 5, 2007 12:02:56 PM
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Interesting.  The weather tiles pop out and load one on top of the other . . then spread out.
Is anyone esle seeing that?
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Alan Hill
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Reply #154 October 5, 2007 3:02:17 PM
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Does anyone else find that Accuweather is not so accurate?

The other day it was 78 degrees Fahrenheit here and partly sunny. All the other weather services had it right except for AW which said it was 70 and cloudy. Not just the docklet but the site too.

I find TWC to be more accurate IMO.
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Reply #155 October 5, 2007 4:38:59 PM
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Sometimes it isn't the site itself that is behind but rather the towers or weather stations that are behind some. This is true of all online weather services running global info feeds. It is a rarity thankfully, but it can happen.
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Reply #156 October 6, 2007 7:49:12 AM
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I am usind OD 1.9 plus - works fine except the weather docklet (I need it for Weinstadt, Germany).
Stardock spent a lot of time in PR, screenshots of this funny docklet - but has anyone tried the functionality for Non-Americans?
I do not understand why is there such a long time to fix it?
There are a lot of cities whith millions of customers out of the USA - a failure like this may happen, but Stardock has to fix it quickly.
Sentences like "...we are working on it..." means: "You have paid but not an America - bad luck!", don't it?
I am very disappointed

Is there a better solution (I've tried XMLweather already but it failes all the time)ß


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Reply #157 October 6, 2007 8:37:49 AM
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Weather Docklet working for Australia: working for Brisbane, Australia anyway. Haven't tried other cities in Australia. Thanks Stardock, love how the five day forecast appears as tiles that spread out.
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Reply #158 October 7, 2007 7:54:02 AM
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Thankyou "Hankers", for your April 26 '07 reply to put " Coniston ON " in the location box. IT WORKS, AND IT WORKS BEAUTIFULLY. Thankyou so much! No more searching for answers to something so simple.
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Reply #159 October 9, 2007 3:41:03 PM
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Does anyone else find that Accuweather is not so accurate?

The other day it was 78 degrees Fahrenheit here and partly sunny. All the other weather services had it right except for AW which said it was 70 and cloudy. Not just the docklet but the site too.

I find TWC to be more accurate IMO.


Yes I cannot stand Accuweather and think they are the worst service, practically and ethically, which is why I'm not using OD 1.9. Besides the fact they are rarely accurate at all, they also want to try and privatize the weather system and forbid national services from giving out information that competes with them in the private sector! I wish the developers would use someone else...
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Alan Hill
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Reply #160 November 9, 2007 5:13:51 PM
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OK, I've used the updated beta for a week or so and so far so good. All the probs I had gone away. Though it would have been good to indicate in the data for capitals of countries. For example: searching for Paris gives amongst the results Paris (capital, France) or something like that.

Thanks very much and I hope the final is not too far away....
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Reply #161 December 4, 2007 7:23:15 PM
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I would just like to point out that the AccuWeather docklet does not work properly for at least one U.S. city (that would be mine), in addition to the problems reported in this thread with international cities.

I live in Atlanta, GA. Currently the AccuWeather docklet says it's 52 degrees, and Clear. Tonight's low is supposed to be 35. Wednesday is supposed to be Partly Sunny, 59/35 and Thursday is listed as Partly Sunny, 57/35.

I click on the docklet and visit the AccuWeather website -- you know, where this data is supposedly coming from? According to the AccuWeather website, it's currently 49 degrees in Atlanta, not 52. It's Partly Cloudy, not Clear. The low tonight is 39, not 35. Wednesday is 61/37, not 59/35. Thursday is Mostly Sunny and 56/39, not Partly Sunny and 57/35. I could go on.

This raises a few interesting questions. How can it be that the AccuWeather docklet doesn't match the AccuWeather website in any respect? Where is this data actually coming from? Can we at least get it renamed to something more, well, accurate? (I vote we call it CrapuWeather.)
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Reply #162 December 4, 2007 11:52:26 PM
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The AccuWeather servers are direct feeds. I tried out your location and found it was matching what I have. Have you updated to the latest beta fix?
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Reply #163 December 5, 2007 7:52:04 PM
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The AccuWeather servers are direct feeds. I tried out your location and found it was matching what I have. Have you updated to the latest beta fix?



I'm using version 1.90 build 536. When I check the Download section of the website, I don't see any beta software -- it's all just Free or Plus. Where would I find this beta fix?

As of today the docklet is still not matching the website. Right now the docklet reads 60 degrees and Clear; AccuWeather website says 55 and Mostly Cloudy. Intellicast agrees it's 55 and Mostly Cloudy; TWC says 56 and Mostly Cloudy. When I look outside, I see clouds. Clearly, it's the docklet that's wrong.

I've tried using "Atlanta, GA" as the location, and I've tried using my zip code. It makes no difference; they never match.
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Reply #164 December 6, 2007 12:08:32 AM
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You will have to get the update through Stardock Central. Try downloading it then make sure that the "show pre-release" box is checked.
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Reply #165 December 7, 2007 6:00:24 AM
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Just as I suspected...I still get timeout problems when it comes to the weather widget and I really hope you can make it flyout for tabbed docks as well please
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Reply #166 December 10, 2007 3:55:35 PM
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No tabbed docks I am afraid. That has been a well logged request. Sorry for that.
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Reply #167 December 11, 2007 6:40:39 PM
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No tabbed docks I am afraid. That has been a well logged request. Sorry for that.



So since this has been requested so much then why not implement it? I'm sure I'm not the only one who get weather info for more than 2 places, so just as tabbed docks are great for storage of shortcuts for apps, games etc why not make it also a storage place for weather docklets?

Many people have clocks in multiple timezones on their desktop, many people have widgets that check several currencies at the same time so what's the deal?

It is possible to flyout on mouseover in a normal dock and OD can detect if I hover over one of the tabs on the edge of my screen so is it impossible to combine the 2?

Then there is also the time-out problem with multiple weather docks...

Would also be nice to have a refreshed beta on SD Central. I know it's coming up to Xmas but the world doesn't stop because of that
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Reply #168 December 11, 2007 7:13:56 PM
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Would also be nice to have a refreshed beta on SD Central. I know it's coming up to Xmas but the world doesn't stop because of that
. . and OD isn't the only product that needs attention 
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Reply #169 December 12, 2007 12:28:52 PM
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My apologies but we are doing our best. User requests number in the hundreds. They have to be slowly implemented, then see if they work, then fix it, then fix it again, and then not release something broken. I am not giving a "We will get to it when we get to it" thing. I am just telling you that we won't release something broken.

Since lots of people have asked for this you can be certain that it won't be over looked. I hope that helps.
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Reply #170 December 12, 2007 1:42:57 PM
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Would also be nice to have a refreshed beta on SD Central. I know it's coming up to Xmas but the world doesn't stop because of that
. . and OD isn't the only product that needs attention 


Sure, it isn't. I also hope that just because it has lower userbase (I assume!) than WindowBlinds then it doesn't get less attention and resources. Let's be fair.

My apologies but we are doing our best. User requests number in the hundreds. They have to be slowly implemented, then see if they work, then fix it, then fix it again, and then not release something broken. I am not giving a "We will get to it when we get to it" thing. I am just telling you that we won't release something broken.

Since lots of people have asked for this you can be certain that it won't be over looked. I hope that helps.


Thank you for doing your best, we appreciate it. However, can you please release some more betas please? Surely thousands of people out there who have the latest beta build would be glad to help with development of the product and the more various possibilities are taken into account the better OD+ will be.

I hope that people understand that beta version of software may have something broken within it. I mean that's why it's called beta for God's sake. If you don't give us a chance to discover the bugs and let you know if the new or fixed features work then you will spend more time testing it yourself, which will result in delays to stable release. It's a win-win situation. I hope I'm making sense...

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Reply #171 December 12, 2007 1:55:02 PM
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Of course. Just so you know there is a beta update in testing right now. It isn't released to the public yet but should be very shortly. No set dates but very soon.

Betas in this sense are more like "Here we think this works well... anything go bad?". Not in the sense that "Here this is broken tell us why". If that was the case all beta testers could demand a salary. You do however get our eternal gratitude.

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Reply #172 December 12, 2007 2:30:26 PM
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Of course. Just so you know there is a beta update in testing right
now. It isn't released to the public yet but should be very shortly. No
set dates but very soon.

Betas in this sense are more like "Here we think this works well...
anything go bad?". Not in the sense that "Here this is broken tell us
why". If that was the case all beta testers could demand a salary. You
do however get our eternal gratitude.


Great to know that a beta is around the corner. I'm not gonna ask when but I hope that you are at liberty to give us a sneak peek at what it has in store? Can't wait to take that baby for a test drive.

I think those 2 senses of betas can be combined to benefit both you and us. After all, if something is broken and you don't know why then it make sense to ask us because we might be able to figure it out together. Let's be proactive. Beta testers shouldn't demand a salary because it's optional. If you want to be a beta tester then great, thank you very much. If not then have fun with the stable release and be sure that we are working to improve it.

In any case, that's quite a lot of ado from me. The main 2 things for weather docklet I see that need attention is flyout in tabbed dock and timeout problems. Sounds like the former is in the pipe for the present and I hope the latter will be too
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Reply #173 December 12, 2007 3:43:17 PM
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I can't confirm what is in the beta. For the most part I don't actually know yet. Even if I wanted though I couldn't say. However you can be sure that updates will be shouted from the rooftops.

However if you get stuck or have issues of any kind I, and others in support, will respond faster to the support email.

Support@stardock.com

Not that we won't be here of course but there is where we look first.
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Reply #174 December 16, 2007 7:54:51 PM
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I'm not sure what you guys did, but the AccuWeather docklet is now matching the AccuWeather website for Atlanta, GA. Finally!

I haven't changed anything on my end -- I'm still running version 1.90 build 536 (I refuse to install proprietary downloaders, so I can't get the beta). For a couple of days last week, the docklet stopped working altogether, displaying "feed not available". So maybe it was down for maintenance, which would explain why it suddenly works for the first time ever? At any rate, thanks for doing whatever you did to fix it.
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Reply #175 December 17, 2007 1:17:34 PM
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Glad it works for you then. Please let us know at support@stardock.com if you have further issues.

Have a good holiday!
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