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Which Vista is Vista?

Fun with WindowBlinds 5.5

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March 25, 2007 11:38:56 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums

 vs.

One of these is Windows Vista by default and one of these is Windows XP with WindowBlinds 5.5 running.  Of course, if you look closely at the text in the notepad windows, it's pretty easy to tell.

But check out that the non-Vista actually is more consistently Vista than Vista (you'll know what I mean when you look at the non-theme aware app pictured).

 

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Reply #1 March 25, 2007 11:59:16 PM
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Impressive! without checking the text in notepad, one would easily determine that the picture on the left is Windowblinds running on XP.... the reason is that WB doesn't have that glass blur effect like that of Vista on the right.... But it doesn't matter, because WB is the greatest!Great great work!
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Reply #2 March 26, 2007 12:51:21 AM
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That and the non Vista folder on your left desktop.

Anyway, as far as it goes, if you like the Vista look, IMO..pretty easily emulated with WB and you can still maintain the functionality that your accustomed to on XP.

Either way, seems Stardock is well on the way to having you covered on both sides of the fence.   
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Reply #3 March 26, 2007 2:06:50 AM
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It's kinda obvious, because the icons on both are not similar...XP-like icons on the left and Vista icons on the right...

Also, noticeably, the taskbar isn't transparent on the XP shot (left).

And finally, the glass streaks on the titlebars aren't as numerous as the ones in the left in RTM versions of Vista (just look at the right screenhot for a reference)

Change your icons, and you could have a pretty good emulation there!!! You also might want to try VAIO (look on joejoe.org) for the Vista Sidebar
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Reply #4 March 26, 2007 2:33:39 AM
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Haha, pretty funny
It was a give away which one was Vista though, Windows Vista doesn't have a taskbar resizer (It does have Quicklaunch resizers, but not the actual strip used to size the bar itself)!
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Reply #5 March 26, 2007 4:24:08 AM
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Just a fast guess,seeing Windowsblinds has a blue side bar and vista side bar is green I would say the one on the left is Windowblinds and the one on the right is vista.....
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Reply #6 March 26, 2007 7:12:58 AM
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Vista has gaussian blur in the glass... WindowBlinds is just transparency -- for now, anyway.
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Reply #7 March 26, 2007 10:49:45 AM
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system tray icons are a huge giveaway
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Reply #8 March 26, 2007 11:43:11 AM
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If look and feel are the only reasons you are upgrading from XP to Vista . . there's no need to upgrade.   
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Reply #9 March 26, 2007 12:05:00 PM
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Sir Zubaz - Thank you. I don't know if you have upgraded to Vista, I haven't. The reasson being is that all I able to read about here is customizeing Vista.

There hasn't been any threads about the real differences between XP and Vista that would make me want to upgrade. I'm looking for information that indicates Vista does computer operations and information and data handling more efficiently and just better than XP.   





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Reply #10 March 26, 2007 1:10:36 PM
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My questions about upgrading to new operating systems (Windows, Linux, or Mac) are:
  • Does it run the apps I want?
  • Does it support my hardware?
  • Does it improve the stability?
  • Does it run faster?
  • Does it improve my experience?
  • Do I need it to do my job?
Anything beyond that is "extra"

Better security is nice.
Better graphics is nice.

I wish I could find a better comparison (but I am lazy) but here is a comparison of the Vista versions
XP does everything I want now and most of the Vista features are available as add-ons for XP.

I am going to be dual (duel?  ) booting XP and Vista for awhile I think.  But I am sure that I'll be migrating over soon enough.

You know what I am interested in?  Windows Home Server.  That's going to be a killer!


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Reply #11 March 26, 2007 1:18:07 PM
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If look and feel are the only reasons you are upgrading from XP to Vista . . there's no need to upgrade.   



yeah agreed im actually pretty picky with how much memory my os takes up...i have 1gb of ram and i get pissed if windows xp uses more than 250mb of it (firefox being the exception...
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Reply #12 March 26, 2007 1:20:32 PM
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duel? ) booting XP


  
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Reply #13 March 26, 2007 2:03:52 PM
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this one is Vista.
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Reply #14 March 26, 2007 2:54:28 PM
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If look and feel are the only reasons you are upgrading from XP to Vista . . there's no need to upgrade.   



yeah agreed im actually pretty picky with how much memory my os takes up...i have 1gb of ram and i get pissed if windows xp uses more than 250mb of it (firefox being the exception...


And so the train rumbles on. Look, will people please stop complaining about the amount of RAM Vista uses, and actually research the topic?
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Reply #15 March 26, 2007 3:03:33 PM
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And so the train rumbles on. Look, will people please stop complaining about the amount of RAM Vista uses, and actually research the topic?
If you have real data, I'd love to see it.

Knowledge is power. 
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Reply #16 March 26, 2007 5:02:16 PM
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Also, noticeably, the taskbar isn't transparent on the XP shot (left).


Not so. Kayeirene's has done a fantastic job on White Flame. Not only is the taskbar transparent but the start menu has the same blur effect.
I have gone a few steps further than frogboy on my copycat OS and it is quite impressive.
I have grown tiered of Vista for now so my thanks to Stardock for giving me a choice of skins. Still I have to give Microsoft credit for inventing a look that is extremely easy on the eyes and easy to use.
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Reply #17 March 26, 2007 7:04:44 PM
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Quoting ,


I have Vista and I run it in aero with trnsperency and every thing else, (I only bought vista for Halo 2 Vista) and it normally doesnt go any more than than 230 MB into it, and
thats awful rare
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Reply #18 March 26, 2007 10:43:07 PM
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I too have Vista (Ultimate) and I must say it is most impressive. It has a very clean look, which was Microsofts intent.

As for the amount of ram used, it really isn't that much. And what better proves this is that I loaded vista onto my older computer with only 512 mb memory and it worked fine.








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Reply #19 March 27, 2007 12:37:11 AM
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Why does the Vista version of the WB config have the pretty task pane but the XP one has the dull boring luna-style blue one?
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Reply #20 March 27, 2007 4:14:57 AM
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all in all a pretty impressive vista to behold
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Reply #21 March 27, 2007 4:41:12 AM
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Why does the Vista version of the WB config have the pretty task pane but the XP one has the dull boring luna-style blue one?


I was wondering this myself when I installed WB on Vista...
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Reply #22 March 27, 2007 8:45:47 AM
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And so the train rumbles on. Look, will people please stop complaining about the amount of RAM Vista uses, and actually research the topic?


actually i did

My friend has vista installed and he told me it uses about 480mb of ram (he has desktop sidebar disabled)

and on top of that the drivers that ATI and NVIDIA rushed out for vista don't work as great as their XP counterparts (but pretty good don't get me wrong)

I'm pretty sure i can disable stuff to make vista run on very little memory but for now there isn't much of a reason to upgrade yet.

But to the point i did a fair bit of research on vista, and i really want to try out that readyboost feature
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Reply #23 March 27, 2007 4:44:19 PM
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I loaded vista onto my older computer with only 512 mb memory and it worked fine.


...until you start running apps.   
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Reply #24 March 27, 2007 7:47:53 PM
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Sorry frogboy, WB 5.5 doesn’t even come close to making XP look like Vista’s GUI. Besides I thought you had UPGRADED to Vista? I guess stardock is still trying to make crumbs off of everyone who hasn’t or can’t afford to upgrade. 20 million sales in 30 days……now that’s not crumbs. More Vista than Vista…..NOT   
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Reply #25 March 28, 2007 6:30:59 PM
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I agree with SIXX21, Vista is more than a static screen trying to look like Vista. The whole look and feel which you get from WB 5.5 doesn't come close to the real thing. But the last thing I understood is that it wasn't legal to use/download a Vista look-a-like skin...

The whole comment about being more Vista with WB 5.5 then the real Vista is a complete joke. That goes for the whole company the last year btw, I upgraded my Object Desktop last year, but I got only upgrades for two or three programs. Stop waisting your time with some .dreams program for only the happy few while still after 2 years(!!) DesktopX and IconX won't run together on all PC's.

Don't bother to respond to this, I am not reading it anyway. I canceled my last upgrade of OD because of lack of support and upgrades. Like the great SS_GOKU said, I don't feel welcome anymore, so bye, bye...
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