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PPx End Session Images Lost Transparency

March 10, 2007 4:26:49 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
With the 5.50.021 release, my Logoff & Shutdown dialog backgrounds are no longer displaying with proper transparency - the transparent bits are black. The regular Logoff & Shutdown dialog backgrounds use the same .tga as the PPx backgrounds. The Please Wait PPx dialog displays correctly (& has a translucency switch). No way in SKS to influence the painting of the others - the PPx sections would use transparency & translucency by default I'd think.
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Reply #1 March 11, 2007 12:13:40 PM
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Reply #2 March 12, 2007 9:31:21 PM
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Reply #4 March 16, 2007 10:12:39 AM
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They seem to be showing up ok here.

Have you tried deleting the .WB4 files in the skin directories?

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Reply #5 March 19, 2007 9:48:50 PM
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Thanks for the reply, Neil.

Tried that a few times, didn't help.

The PleaseWait PPx image displays with proper trans but the Shutdown & Logoff images look like this:



All are .tga's (.png's imported by SKS).

Thanks again.
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Reply #6 March 21, 2007 2:03:58 PM
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Reply #9 March 25, 2007 12:51:33 PM
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The regular ones cant be per pixel...as you know...the per pixel ones have to be 32 bit.

Add this to the code in SKS for both per pixel sections PerPixel=1

And change the non per pixel ones to opaque images.
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Reply #10 March 25, 2007 2:37:24 PM
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Thanks, IR. I'll try that.

Can the nonPPx images use magic pink?
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Reply #11 March 25, 2007 6:50:47 PM
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I forget.  Dont think so.  
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Reply #12 March 25, 2007 11:03:29 PM
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I haven't finished troubleshooting but changing the non-PPx images to .bmp with magic pink did not work - still get the black areas where trans should be.

In what circumstances will the non-PPx images be used if you have PPx images defined?
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Reply #13 March 26, 2007 12:24:47 AM
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earlier versions of WB and video cards that dont support per pixel.  
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Reply #14 March 26, 2007 11:25:18 PM
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Well, using opaque images for the non-PPx end session images doesn't fix it either.

I'm stumped. The PPx Please Wait image displays correctly with proper trans. The Logoff & Shutdown PPx images show the black for the trans bits. The images are proper .png's with alpha-trans imported by SKS to .tga format. They were working, which is the puzzle.
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Reply #15 March 27, 2007 3:08:20 PM
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D3 (deep dark depression) is setting in.

I D/L'd & installed Encoded which has very nice PPx Shutdown/Logoff dialogs and they display proper trans, so it's not my rig, it's something about my images or code settings.

I reviewed all the code settings for all the End Session images and made sure mine matched those in Encoded. I recreated my Shutdown/Logoff background .png's with alpha-trans, just to be sure, and let SKS re-import them to .tga format. I even incorporated a screen mask like Encoded in case it was needed (since Encoded uses one). SKS (as it always has) Previews the images properly. The only difference between my images & Encoded's is that my Shutdown & Logoff Button images use Magic Pink (they display fine, BTW).

All to no avail. The trans areas are still black.

If there is someone willing to take a look & tell me what I've missed, I'd be pleased to zip it up & send it.

TIA.
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Reply #16 March 27, 2007 3:19:46 PM
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I'll look at it,my msn messenger and yahoo email are in my profile.
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Reply #17 March 27, 2007 4:25:59 PM
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Thanks, I.R.

You should have mail.
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Reply #18 March 27, 2007 8:10:57 PM
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Add this to the code in SKS for both per pixel sections PerPixel=1


You didnt do this...open the code tab next to preview and anylize...manually paste in(or type)...PerPixel=1  

works here when I made that change.  
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Reply #19 March 27, 2007 8:20:09 PM
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I would change my system buttons to tga's so you can get alpha blended corners.  
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Reply #20 March 27, 2007 11:05:51 PM
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Thanks a bunch, I.R. Very kind of you. I'll have my wife hold up on the commitment paperwork.

Silly me, but you'd think that would be default, wouldn't you (PerPixel=1)? I'll take your advice & convert the System Buttons - was thinking of doing that when I saw the corners in the end session dialogs, had it on the todo list.

BTW, I reverted to 5.50.021 and the menus, MDI buttons and dialog backgrounds all paint correctly. A tweak or two in 5.50.023 had some unintended consequences, it appears.
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