Perhaps the key words highlighted in BOLD black might help...just read those words.

It's a valid and unarguable point that Fairry raises. A point valid enough for the shot to be removed by now without question.

While I don't find it offensive enough to merit leaving the site It does bother me that this sort of stuff is creeping in when i go out of my way to avoid it on other sites.

And the girl looks and is intended to look 14.

I have no problems with classic pinup shots and even a tastefully done nudes..as long as the model LOOKS like an adult! This model LOOKS like she is barely into her teens...and that is the problem. As a survivor I can not, and will not, let this go unchallenged...it has nothing to do with being jealous that she looks so young...hell I was being carded well into my 30's - it's about keeping images that even HINT at exploitation of a child off a site! If this is let to go, what's next? I cannot in good faith remain loyal and supportive of a site that would let such a thing pass.

There is a valid concern over the wall not being suffeciently obscured to prevent reuse.  As it stands, someone could take the bulk of that image and reuse it for something else.  For that reason I have contacted the author already this morning and will be temporarily moving it to his personal page only awaiting an update.

As to the content.  WinCustomize is not a G-Rated site.  That image would pass muster on prime time television or even in some cases in a PG movie.  It's suggestive yes, but no more suggestive than what we see on TV, in movies, heck even what we hear on the radio during the morning rush hour.

We can not moderate to the most restrictive sense of propriety present in the community.  I understand that you may be put off by that wall, but what about anything on the site that relates to religion or any religiously affiliated holiday?  I know people who are deeply offended by Christmas imagery.  Should we place a ban on Christmas walls, icons and skins because it offends an ever-growing number of people?

Like all things in life that might offend... just ignore it.  Don't download it, don't comment on it.  You're not being forced to view it.  The things you like and enjoy might offend someone else, would you rather your own material be banned, or would you tell people to just not look at it, since it's not being forced on them?

Dont remember seeing that on the Radio   

Anyway..while Zoomba is for the most part right..and while yes diff people have diff tastes..a standard of decency is.. what it says it is.. and when you start lowering that standard you lose respect for yourselves from others whose standards differ.

There is a culture war going on in this country and If people don't stand up for what they think is right we all may as well give up right now and crawl back in our holes.

Its a fine line and I'd hate to have to draw it on a daily basis...But.. I would.. draw it somewhere.

Zoomba beat me to it.  I was so concerned about the content that I forgot the obvious.  

No one is blaming you We appreciate the work you all do - sometimes though in our stride to be " cutting Edge " we forget that there are people that still have high moral values. I don't go to church and I can cuss like a sailor - but I try to respect others values.

And Zoombas or Jafo can restore all your work. While I do understand your feelings on this 100% - maybe after everyone cools off you will reconsider.

Philly,

I did step in on the issue, as a Stardock employee, and appointed guardian of WC for most day-to-day items, the screenshot was removed from the public gallery due to the unobscured wall.  We are still enforcing the rules, it's just that from time to time something slips through. 

The rules for uploads remain the same.  Screenshots should have a suffeciently obscured wall image. And we still stick with PG-13 guidelines for content.

It got out of hand because a public issue was made out of it. The matter could have been resolved almost instantly by making contact in private. I could have dealt with the screenshot had someone immediately contacted me in private, either by e-mail or PM (or contact another mod if I wasn't online), but by the time I arrived here it had already gone way beyond my area of responsibility (skin moderation).

So, as soon as I saw this thread, the screenshot, the direction things had already taken, I went onto IRC to get the attention of someone who could resolve the problem in a correct manner. It was sorted shortly thereafter.

Well....I've managed not to get involved until now. Clearly this is a controversial screenshot and clearly the girl looks 14! What bothers me the most is that we are going to lose CL and TA Woods over this...That really sucks! What will become of the White Pearl if there's no Fandango?

Fuzzy, I apologize for making this public...but I was having trouble with the e-mail thing...when I got it working, I sent an e-mail as well.