I'll probably purchase and install Vista within the next 6 months. Not before or right after Christmas, though.

Lets get back to the original topic please. I'm really was curious of what your plans are for Vista.

Sorry for the off-topic Kona shots, ID, at the time I was thinking similarly to Phoon......

it would be rude to start a thread titled " Let's all make Kona squirm!" Therefore, we must seize each golden opportunity that presents itself to us.

BTW my XP setup is very stable.

As is mine, Kona, but I find Vista RC2 to be equally as stable if not moreso. Also, Vista will search for recommended settings for programs that refuse to install, an advantage XP doesn't have. Granted, some proggies still don't install, but that's only a matter of some 3rd party devs catching up with Vista's coding....and when they do, it's gonna be one heck of an OS with huge potential.

For example Nero Premiun 7 runs faster and more efficiently on Vista than it does in XP, and with my Audigy 4 software also more efficient than in XP, all my media and backup jobs are now done in Vista.....and that's only the beginning. It has been said by some that Vista is just a GUI enhancement of XP, but there are many, many changes/improvements under the hood, so Kona, if you haven't already given Vista a test run, I recommend that you download yourself a copy of RC2 from MS and give it a whirl.

BTW, my wife is running PSP 8, Digital Image Pro, Paint.net and ArtRage 2 on Vista and all are performing very well. In fact, she prefers using them in Vista and says the graphics are much clearer/easier to work with, so you'd be able to get back to skin creation in Vista as well.

There's many complaining about Vista's price tag, and yeah, I'd like it to be somewhat lower, but I'm still gonna purchase it because I feel Vista Ultimate has the greatest potential of any OS ever made and will easily take us into the next decade....and when you add Stardock's suite of apps, given Vista's improved graphics rendering, not only will it be the most versatile, it'll be the most aesthetically pleasing OS as well.

WinME is compatible with apps? Huh . . learn something new every day.

Hey all,

Wow, good laughs for being derailed, rerailed, derailed, etc....

I have one major issue and a couple of minor issues with Vista.

1. HP does not have any FULL driver support for ANY of their printers. I own 2 HP printers.
When my best friend called them to find out if they would have drivers coming out soon, they responded as such; "We are having problems with creating drivers for Vista due to certain conflictions with IE 7." My buddy replied in saying that he is using IE 7 and that he has no problems withhis HP printer with IE 7 using windows XP. So the Question Of The Day is, What is the problem that HP really has?

2. The DRM thing with Media Player 11 is not a big issue considering that there is a million different "players" out there that don't deal with DRM as much.

3. This is not a big issue as more a HUGE ANNOYANCE, UAC of course. The UAC is A HUGE F***ing headache and should have been ditched.

So until number 1 is resolved, I say no way to Vista. Other than these things it's a good O.S.

Speedy

It has been said by some that Vista is just a GUI enhancement of XP, but there are many, many changes/improvements under the hood, so Kona, if you haven't already given Vista a test run, I recommend that you download yourself a copy of RC2 from MS and give it a whirl.

On this 1 GHz machine? No thanks. XP barely runs decent on this setup.

There's many complaining about Vista's price tag, and yeah, I'd like it to be somewhat lower, but I'm still gonna purchase it because I feel Vista Ultimate has the greatest potential of any OS ever made and will easily take us into the next decade....

Matter of opinion. I've read more blogs and reports lately that state Vista will be the last OS M$ ever makes. Only time will tell.

And by the way the market didn't choose Windows. It was forced upon us by M$ offering cheap cheap prices to PC makers and then in turn they forced it upon us without telling anyone that there IS altenatives out there.

Sorry for the hijack.

I'm not going to sit here and post various links. All I said was I have read various sites that say Vista will be the last OS M$ ever makes. I'm sure there is many other sites that have a different view. So be it. I don't believe everything I read.

Your right M$ dosen't have to tell anyone about other OS. But the PC makers should. After all why is it I can't get a Notebook from Dell with no OS installed?

All I said was I have read various sites that say

Yes, and you also said that you read that the RIAA was trying to shut down the internet.. https://forums.wincustomize.com/?forumid=144&aid=137796#1069609

On this 1 GHz machine? No thanks. XP barely runs decent on this setup.

Then you have other issues..

After all why is it I can't get a Notebook from Dell with no OS installed?

You can't buy a notebook from most manufacturers without an OS installed.

It was forced upon us by M$

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As Brad stated earlier,

, the market once had real options. Windows or OS/2. The market chose Windows.

I remember those days very well. MS promoted the hell out of Windows and came out on top, similar to the betamax VHS scenario. betamax was better quality but VHS won out because of heavy promotion.
And so what if it came with your PC. You've always had the option of formatting and installing something else.

Good lord, will you just get away from the "conspiracy theory" sites.

Back on topic Island Dog...
I just obtained my Technet Plus which includes Vista Ultimate and have put it in to heavy testing. What I see so far is that my current A/V solutions (Trend Micro Neat Suite or SAV Corporate ) are not compatible yet. First and foremost I need to rely on a solid, corporate solution for anti-virus. Also I had to jump through SERIOUS hoops to get Admin tools for Server 2003 to work.
I think all of those issues will be resolved in a few months. Will have to see.

Then you have other issues..

What do you mean? I bought what I could afford at that time. No worries.

Good lord, will you just get away from the "conspiracy theory" sites.

Didn't know sites like ZDnet (Not ZDnet itself but credible sites like it) and Linux websites were conspiracy sites.

As far as the RIAA thing I thought it was a good read. I figured I would share. You guys share stuff I find useless as well. I don't make fun of you for it.

I've read more blogs and reports lately that state Vista will be the last OS M$ ever makes.

I saw that as well, but it was more suppostion than reality....and certainly not fact..

The article I read was 'supposing', that if Google and other developers were heading in the direction of net based/online apps and OSes, then PERHAPS Microsoft would follow suit to compete in those areas of personal/business computing. However, despite the suggestion that MS may consider more web based software, at no time was there ever a confirmation that Vista WOULD be MS' LAST OS installed via disc to a HD. Furthermore, as ID has already pointed out, MS announced it has begun work on its next PC based OS.

And by the way the market didn't choose Windows.

It most certainly did....it's not like the alternatives were hidden under rocks or locked away in Fort Knox to prevent their use....and Bill Gates certainly didn't go into the coffin building business so he could bury them. The alternatives have always been there for PC manufacturers and consumers alike. It's just that ease of use and convenience became the name of the game....greater interoperability with 3rd party apps, which MS had, not to mention the better of the marketing strategies and a highly saleable product with which people could truly identify....something which cannot be said of Apple/Mac or Linux because neither manufactures or markets in such a way as to appeal to a wider audience, which is something MS does very well.

That's it in a nutshell, Kona....there's no conspiracy going on here. MS were the greater strategists and sought to appeal to the greater audience with functional software and OSes for anyone and everyone building or owning a PC....no more no less.

As for Vista, whether or not it'll run on your 1Ghz machine, it IS the future of Windows for the next few years and you WILL eventually feel the need to upgrade because 3rd party devs are already geared up for it and you'd be left in the PC wilderness if you don't keep pace with what is to become universal technology. Okay your XP's doing all you want it to right now, but as this newer technology evolves, you're gonna find it useful only for soiltaire and your current games, cos browsers, messengers and email clients and the like will be developed for Vista and beyond, no XP backports.

I'm not gonna to get Vista. If I buy a new PC with Vista on it I'm gonna say no to the EULA and either put Linux or XP on it. Then I'm gonna sit back and smile when threads like "I have to buy a new Vista License because MS said mine is pirated (Because when Vista called home things got fouled up. Vista is supposed to call home every 2 months)" or "I can't play any MP3 files because Vista says they are illegal" and stuff to that effect. Why would anyone spend 500+ dollars for a buggy OS that barely runs on most hardware when XP does 90 percent of what Vista will do and is a bit more stable?

I know I'm a little late to this game, but....

Hey Kona! Long time no see! It funny that some things never change...like your uninformed and clueless posts. This is one of the best yet! That's an extremely strong set of statements for someone who's probably never even seen Vista...right? LOL

I, on the other hand, speak (type) from experience. I run it full-time on my main home system, my primary desktop at work, and several other test systems at work. I have been using it for about twelve hours-a-day for the last six months or so. I also will probably deploy it to several hundred systems in my enterprise by the end of the first half of 2007.

...so, I can pretty much say with confidence that your post is a complete and total load of bunk...dripping with FUDI (Fear Uncertainty Doubt Ignorance). You couldn't be more wrong on just about every point you tried to make.

If you were just trying to stir the pot...you got me.

Otherwise, thanks for the laugh. This was a good one!

Been running Vista since Beta 2 release. First I had it on my Intel 930 system. Ran great! Then RC1 was released so I installed it on my Core 2 Duo 6800 system. Ran even better. Now I have RTM on the Core 2 Duo 6800 system. Could not be a better or more trouble free OS in my opinion. When it finally hits the retail stores I'll get 3 copies for my three main computers (I'll be leaving 2 others running XP for a while).   

...yawn...

No plans to use Vista until a rig breaks badly enough to need replacement.